EXCLUSIVE
PICTURES AND INTERVIEW AT HER NEW HOME WITH
HUSBAND ROBERT FRIPP - TOYAH WILLCOX - TALKS
ABOUT SURVIVING 'I'M A CELEBRITY...' AND HER
UNCONVENTIONAL MARRIAGE Toyah's kitchen is a hive of
activity as she buzzes around like a small
whirlwind. She makes tea, chats with her father
who has popped in for a visit, and tries to round
up her husband Robert Fripp, who keeps
disappearing into the depths of their large
Georgian house. On the sideboard are several
notes with "to do" lists written in her
neat hand.
It is a
pace at which the 45-year-old actress, TV
presenter and singer seems to thrive. having only
just recovered from her stint in the Australian
jungle with I'm A Celebrity ... Get me Out Of
Here!, she is about to take the show in which
she is currently starring, Calamity Jane,
to the West End. She has also just released a new
album, Velvet Lined Shell, and is still
settling into the home - suitcases remain
unpacked upstairs - to which they moved a year
ago.
At the same
time, she is enjoying some quality time with
Robert, the 57-year-old guitarist and co-founder
of the seminal rock band King Crimson.
Theirs is a
strange love story, and one of the most enduring
and unconventional relationships in showbusiness.
Robert proposed to Toyah a week after they met at
the height of her pop-star success in 1985, and
they married a year later.
"We
didn't know each other terribly well - we used to
joke it was an arranged marriage but we'd
arranged it ourselves," he says. But they
have spent most of the past 17 years apart.
Robert is based in Nashville with his band, where
he also runs a guitar school, and Toyah has
stayed in England. She claims the most they've
ever spent together in a year is 12 weeks, while
he observes wryly: "It depends on the year
you're looking at."
Both are
driven by their careers and appear to cope with
their separation. "While the work is there
we have to take the opportunity," she says.
This year, they'll probably only spend eight
weeks together.
"There
is an ongoing sense of grief to which there is no
answer," explains Robert, while Toyah
insists that "It's taken a long time, but I
think I've made it work for me."
Despite the
distance, they are comfortably affectionate with
each other. She calls him "pud", he
calls her "little luvvie". And although
they may be opposites - he is quiet and reserved,
she is bright and jovial - it's a contrast that
works.
One
sacrifice Robert has been prepared to make was to
move from Dorset, where they have been based in
the past, to Worcestershire, near where Toyah
grew up. Set on the high street of a small town
on the River Avon, which runs at the bottom of
their manicured garden, the six-bedroom,
18th-century house has an individual style
defined by the eclectic art they have collected
over the years. It's a house where Toyah says she
finally feels at home.
"As
soon as I saw it I burst into tears as I'd never
before walked into a house and realised I just
had to live there," she says. Her parents
live nearby - her father often pops by on his
boat - and it's within easy commuting distance of
London, where she will be spending most of her
time over the next few months.
Taking a
break from the photo shoot, we talk in the garden
as two ducks take a dip in the fountain nearby.
Toyah,
what made you decide to take part in I'm
A Celebrity ...?
"I
loved the first series - I thought it was the
best telly I'd ever seen - and I wanted the
physical challenges. What I didn't know was that
they were going to make it psychologically
harder, which caught me by surprise. We weren't
allowed to do anything - we couldn't go for
walks, explore or forage - so the boredom was
extraordinary. But I've got absolutely no regrets
- I feel very positive about the
experience."
There
were a lot of strong personalities in the jungle.
Were you able to be yourself?
"I
compromised a hell of a lot. But I didn't go
there to fight with people as I didn't want to
live with headlines for the next ten years such
as 'Toyah breaks so-and-so's nose'. I wanted to
be a good team member, not controversial.
"The
only thing I was prepared to do - but didn't
because it was far too cold - was strip off and
streak as many times as possible. And knowing how
much Fash (John Fashanu) didn't want me to do it
made me more determined.
"I did
look a mess though. I looked 50 years older, my
hair was a matted mop - no wonder people didn't
want me to streak! But I was the only one who
didn't sneak make-up in. I looked at Linda
(Barker) one day and said: 'You've got eyeliner
on, you sneaky devil!' I wasn't tempted to borrow
make-up - I might be naive here but I'm proud of
my age and wanted to fly the banner for my
generation."
Robert,
how much did you miss Toyah?
"The
most difficult thing was to watch my wife on
television for 20 hours a day and not be able to
speak to her. It was an irrational response, but
I found myself being wound up. I was deeply upset
and there was nothing I could do except send her
good wishes from the distance.
"But
as soon as I closed my suitcase to go to
Australia, my grief lifted."
Toyah,
did you learn anything from the experience?
"It
taught me a lot about myself. I loved going to
sleep with nine people around me. I'm alone a lot
of the time and I felt safe and secure - I slept
the best I have in 20 years. I learnt that I
adore city life, I adore stress but I don't make
enough room for friends in my life because I'm
constantly on the move.
"And I
learnt that my husband is 90 per cent of who I am
- and I felt that so intensely I was almost ready
to walk off the show. Because he's always on the
phone and I can always make contact with him, I
suppose I've taken his presence for granted. But
to be in almost imprisonment made me think, 'My
God, this man is my life. He is someone I can't
live without.' I didn't appreciate that
before."
Did it
make you think about changing your relationship?
"I'd
love to change it but he'll never change. He'll
always be off. I'm not saying he does it
deliberately but he's nomadic, it's in his
make-up and I can't enforce him to stay."
If it's
only work that keeps you apart, why can't one of
you make a sacrifice?
"No
way. he can't make a sacrifice because he's got a
great brain and he's got a lot to do yet. I love
acting too much to ever give it up and I don't
feel as if I've achieved my ambitions yet. If I
got signed to Warner Brothers for five years,
then I'd probably feel more relaxed. But I don't
feel secure in my career and would be too nervous
to take six months off."
What
binds you together?
T:
"I genuinely think we're soul mates. We're
incredibly comfortable together, and as I get
older I find him more attractive. I think he has
a lovely, distinguished quality about him."
R:
"We have a committed marriage. On our
wedding day I made that commitment and I never
doubted it."
How do
you manage to maintain a level of intimacy?
T:
"I do miss the everyday stuff. We love
walking around cities hand in hand, having lunch
somewhere or snuggling up at four in the
afternoon and having a snooze. I do miss all of
that but it's never a problem getting back to it
when he's home. Time hasn't damaged or jaded
anything - the intense emotions are still the
same. We never feel like strangers. Seventeen
years ago it might have been a bit, 'Hello, who
are you?' but not now."
R: "I
appreciate that on the outside our marriage may
look strange. I think the way we make it work is
that when we're together, we're intensively
together, and when we're apart we're intensively
professional. The qualitative aspect over-rides
the quantitative aspect."
What's
been the toughest time in your relationship?
"About
three years ago he was based in Seattle,
developing an internet company. He'd be on the
plane home and would get a call and he'd have to
go back straight away. I was going for months
without seeing him and that was very difficult.
We always have this thing that when we say, 'Come
home', we mean it. I was quite down about it - I
felt numb, nothing meant anything to me - food
didn't, my work didn't. I thought, 'This is not
living - come home for goodness' sake, I'm not a
nun.' He was around for three months and we
really explored the problem of those moments and
learned through it. I felt life was not meant to
be spent just missing someone."
What
about jealousy - do you trust each other?
"I
think at our age we've got over it! I trust him
implicitly. When we were first together it was
awful because he worked with all his exes so they
were permanently there. But I've chased them all
off now!"
Why
haven't you ever been to Nashville? Aren't you
curious to know where he lives?
"No,
because Nashville's somewhere I've never wanted
to go. I'd go bonkers because I know it's a quiet
environment - I like buzz and lots of activity. I
know all his friends very well and the doors are
open - they'd love me there. But when he's there
he's in the studio all the time and I'd have a
lot of time to kill - I've got better things to
do.
"There
are other places of work where I wouldn't go, as
I know the type of people he's working with.
There's one place in particular where there are
ex-girlfriends and I won't go there because, even
after 17 years, I know I'd be aggressive with
them.
"But I
meet him in New York, about two or three times a
year and I'm looking for a house there, so I
think I'll be spending more time in the States in
the future."
Do you
feel you've missed out by not having children?
"In
periods of war, I've often thought: 'Should I
adopt children?' Especially when you see these
tiny things suffering so much. But then, I've got
to think about the reality of the person I am
when I'm not working and I'm not happy. I've
never wanted a child in a house where they can
sense someone is unhappy or feeling trapped. So
I've explored it. But genetically I never wanted
to give birth - I know that."
Why are
you so work-driven?
"I
think I'm looking for a level of achievement I
haven't reached yet - especially as an actress.
I'd love to feel that I could just amble around
at home and wait for the right script to come,
but I don't trust that process. I find you have
to drive things along and be dedicated - at least
I do."
How are
you enjoying starring in Calamity Jane?
"It's
brilliant, excellent - a really happy show. It's
taught me so much about stage singing, comedy and
general fitness and gives me a chance to show off
as a character rather than as me, which is the
way I like it."
Are you
happier as you get older?
"My
40s have been more comfortable than any other
time. I think you reach an age of no return and
if you're financially independent that gives you
a great sense of power.
"Also,
as I get older I don't care about others'
opinions - I care more about my own. I think
there's an awful lot of hindsight when you get
older and you realise you are your own best
guide."
Hello!
24th
June 2003
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